May 13, 2025
Social Impact Leadership with Mai Moore
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Send us a text Mai Moore is a distinguished social impact strategist and speaker. Moore shares her journey from tech startups to founding the nonprofit EYEJ (Empowering Youth Exploring Justice) and the company Boss Me In, which promotes intergenerational leadership and youth empowerment. She emphasizes the importance of awareness, breaking cycles, and creating a more equitable world. With insights into leveraging personal experiences and taking actionable steps, the conversation highlights ho...
Mai Moore is a distinguished social impact strategist and speaker. Moore shares her journey from tech startups to founding the nonprofit EYEJ (Empowering Youth Exploring Justice) and the company Boss Me In, which promotes intergenerational leadership and youth empowerment. She emphasizes the importance of awareness, breaking cycles, and creating a more equitable world. With insights into leveraging personal experiences and taking actionable steps, the conversation highlights how individuals can drive societal change and empower the next generation of leaders.
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Welcome back to the Wayfinder Show.
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I'm your host, Louis Hernandez and on today's Wayfinder Show, I'm honored to welcome a powerhouse of purpose and impact by the name of My Moore.
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She's a dynamic speaker, social impact strategist, and divisionary behind movements like empowering youth.
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Exploring Justice and Boss Me In, which is transforming the way we think about leadership, equity, and youth empowerment with a rich background that spans corporate success, nonprofit innovation in over 500 global speaking engagements.
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MA is the.
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Kind of leader who not only speaks truth to power, but equips the next generation to do the same.
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Her work has been recognized with multiple Anthem awards and she's here today to share how we can all step into purpose, break cycles, and create lasting change.
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My welcome to the Wayfinder Show.
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Thanks so much Louis, for having me.
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I'm excited to have this conversation.
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Yeah, likewise.
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Let's start with your origin story.
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What what who is my more wow, that's a big question.
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So I act, I call myself hashtag almost social impact.
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My personal mission is really about awakening and awareness.
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So that it can help people see more clearly, so they can lead properly in this new world.
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And I'm really here.
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My vision is really to create a more equitable, connected and empowered world.
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And you shared some of my background, but it started out as in tech really, I was, involved with two startups that went public, and I did.
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I was in tech for Wow, for over 20 years.
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And then to what you had mentioned, I co-founded a Social impact nonprofit, EYEJ, empowering Youth Exploring Justice, empowering young advocates for change.
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So I had served 2000 underserved youth with the help of 1400 diverse adults.
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How create change from just the idea.
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And after that I really wanted to get back into the national, international space.
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I chief.
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Which is a very large women's executive network of 20,000 women across the United States, and really was paying attention to what was happening.
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This was about three years ago, and that's when all the, great resignation topics came up.
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Pay Gap, DEI, burnout all that, and created actually a coalition.
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We started doing speaker series for young women because I feel like we had set them up for failure, meaning.
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Chiefs are amazing and they have so many stories and experiences to share, but they, many of us, and it doesn't matter, male or female, have been taught, to wear a mask.
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You can't be vulnerable, you can't share your story, things like that.
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And until we are honest and share those experiences with young people they will then be able to plan their life a little bit better.
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And so from that, I was really inspired and created a company called Bossan, which you mentioned.
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Which is really about bridging the intergenerational gap for the future work through connection, inclusivity, and transforming leadership.
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And the real differentiator there is intergenerational leadership.
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And so beyond that, yes, to your point, I do public speaking, like I mentioned, I'm very focused on awakening and awareness right now just because of my reflections on the last 13 years.
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And really how can I help humanity or future of work or culture better?
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Wow.
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There's a lot there.
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I like to let's, I wanna focus on you first before we get into some of those subjects if we could.
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Sure.
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How how do I put this?
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With the.
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Story of, transformational leadership and all of that.
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What was, what got you personally to really think about this, right?
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What, yeah.
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Why even do this work?
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I grew up very multicultural.
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My mother's Japanese I'm half Caucasian.
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My daughter is half Zambian.
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And my mother always brought me around different cultures.
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I grew up in a community in Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
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That's very diverse.
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And so when I was growing up, it was really about who you are as a human right versus the color of your skin, your social economic level, what industry, what role you are in.
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And so that's really stuck with me.
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And and then, as I got into the tech industry.
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What a lot of women were facing three years ago with a great resignation and having this desire to find, our purpose or wanting to do something that helps impact society or really listening to the demands of Gen Z.
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That was me when I was in the tech industry and I've always been fast and I'm not saying that's a great thing, but I've always been.
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Visionary and fast.
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And so I had a lot of those experiences being in the tech industry where, for example, you were fighting to get to that one spot as a female or a person of color.
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And then, people would go against each other fighting for that one spot and.
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And just a corporate atmosphere.
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So I had a lot of those experiences, young and obviously I had never thought in a million years I'd be working with young people or start a nonprofit and, the teachings of spending time with these young people and underserved.
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It just boggled my mind'cause I just didn't understand.
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To be in a society where there's 27,000 nonprofits, why are our young people in the state of toxic stress?
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And why is there so many people that are underserved?
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And these kind of different steps had kept growing inside of me.
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And then I had became a chief and like I mentioned, was really paying attention to what was happening in the corporate space.
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And I can't answer everything, but what has.
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What has been inside of me is just seeing these young people, whether through BOSSAN or EYEJ, and how, how young, so many young people are, young leaders at such a young age, and are we really preparing them for the future properly?
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As an example, in five years, 70% of our workforce is gonna be millennials and Gen Z, and have we set them up properly?
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Look at our culture right now.
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Do we have intergenerational leadership embedded into cultures and corporations and workplaces properly?
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And are we being equitable?
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That's always stood with me is the whole justice and equity and humanity standpoint.
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That's always been like this underlying foundation.
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And I care.
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And again, I've been privileged to spend time with so many different kind of people, literally working with billionaires to returning citizens.
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And I just, I feel like leadership is such a important and urgent need for society right now.
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And there are so many people who are.
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Capable of leadership or are leaders who are not empowered properly, and then yet we have leaders in place that are literally ruling.
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Humanity right now.
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And so again, all these things connect.
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And I, like I mentioned, I feel like my calling right now is really about awareness because I have seen how we make decisions or funding decisions or whatever it is, innovation decisions.
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And we think we're making impact, but yet we're actually taking us backwards as humanity.
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And so being more aware, being able to see more clearly will help us make better decisions as leaders.
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Was there did you find that once you left the tech world and started doing it through your nonprofit, that you were empowered to be able to tell a story maybe that you couldn't before because you were bound by the Sure.
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The walls of corporate America?
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Absolutely.
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Being an entrepreneur, there's more freedom there, right?
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And I think there.
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Being to be seen, to be heard, to be valued to be appreciated which we see right now that a lot of people really desire.
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And yeah, that's definitely part of it.
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And I think it was a lot about voice.
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When it's not equitable, the voices, whether we bring people to the table or not, it's still not equitable of how we implement it or who we listen to or how we, how many we communicate things.
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And I think there's a strong desire for many people to get, have their voice heard and be seen.
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Sure.
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Lady, I relate to them honestly.
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Yeah.
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I'm wondering if you can tell us like.
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A personal story you were suddenly able in your speaking engagement or what have you, that you were, you might have been afraid to before in corporate America, that now you were able to, as you became an entrepreneur and and with that sharing of that story, what was your own feeling there and the reaction of others to it?
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Yeah, that's a big question and I think I actually attribute this a lot to entrepreneurship is that and just, going through what I have with these companies and how people are I have many stories I think, be, for example, to your point about speaking.
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When I've done many speaking engagements and, speaking to an audience, that's not exactly the same as me.
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But then, seeing their eyes light up like a light bulb just went off, or, speaking to an audience and having a seventh grade boy run after me and say thank you.
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What seventh grader does that in general, right?
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And so those moments are really what ignite like a few inside of me.
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And like I said, I'm very tied to injustice.
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So EYJ was actually created.
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When the Trayvon Martin ruling had happened and I just, it didn't sit well with me.
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That was really the fire that lit the spark for EYEJ.
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But it's those moments or working with executive women chiefs or Gen Z in the future workspace, just seeing people's passion come alive or the seeing people take action based in a thriving, healthy, happy way.
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That's what really makes me happy and keeps me going.
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Yeah.
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So it, it sounds like you've probably recognized some.
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There, there's systemic barriers here for some of our youth and out that are out there, right?
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And I think you've identified some of those, but and I like what you're doing to try and encourage, empower people to, to create change.
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How is.
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I guess what, are there any actionable steps that you get people to do to do that?
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To start feeling empowered to also create the change?
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Yeah so just to be clear, the systemic barriers are not just.
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It's a certain group of youth, it's pro, it's a majority of young people that are faced with depression.
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And you think about examples of, when a young person has a brilliant idea, they bring it to the table and then we shut them down, or we don't listen to them.
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So to your, to answer your question, that's my job.
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My job is really to get more people involved.
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And as an example, EYJ or boss and, corralling and.
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Really reaching out to diverse community to come to the table to, because I think a majority of society does care about young people.
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And for them to see firsthand or hear their story of what they've been through.
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A lot of people don't realize it.
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I think we have a systemic problem in the United States where a lot of people are very sheltered and comfortable.
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And don't want to.
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Deal with harder scenarios in some situations and don't have to because they're not held accountable and until, and, but at the end of the day, we are humans.
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And when people hear people's stories and see young people step up to the plate, that's inspiring.
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And that educates and reminds us as older leaders like, oh yes.
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I forgot.
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This is our duty to empower the next set generation of leaders.
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And I think sometimes we forget that as older leaders and we have been there ourselves, right?
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And so I know for me personally, like I don't want young people to ever go through the things that I went through.
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And so that's my way of I don't know whether you call it protection or guiding or.
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Again, building awareness.
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But and having conversation and building relationship with community, and again, it's about messaging and showing and demonstrating by leadership.
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These young actions that young, if you look at the Gen Z space right now, so inspirational.
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If you see the amount of Gen Zs that are building businesses and impact oriented, purpose-driven companies and who have desires and passions for helping back community, that's inspiring.
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But people need to see that to some, kids keep us in check.
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Kids are our foundation.
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So sometimes we have to be reminded and the more that can be shared with the world it reminds us.
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Again, back to the basics of humanity, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah, it does.
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So what, alright, as an, as a geezer, what adv advice, like what are the are my blind spots in general and how can I work on them?
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Yeah.
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Louis, I'd have to get to know you more.
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You're a human.
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In general, right?
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Yeah.
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But I think that's a big question, right?
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I think, again, the reminder that our duty is to set up our next generation of leaders.
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Have we done that?
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Have we guided them?
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Have we prepared them?
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Have we given them resources?
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And are we reaching out to our community?
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'cause our community is beyond just our current, what we know of, right?
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When you are.
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Do doing an action.
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It is in fact it is impacting everybody and we are all connected.
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So are you going beyond your comfort zone to reach out to and just an example of speakers or people maybe you mentor or.
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Helping people with resources to help guide them and prepare them for this new world because we do have, again, experience and knowledge and resources.
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But are we communicating and finding out from our community what they need?
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Are we asking them and then providing that back?
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Okay.
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You talk a little bit about.
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You've mentioned the term awake and awareness.
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What exactly does that mean?
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It means that it, what it means is.
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When I say, are we seeing, are, when I ask back, are you, are we seeing clearly immediate responses?
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Probably I can see, I've been, I'm X I'm Generation X.
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I can see just fine.
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But what I mean by that is, are we looking beyond, again, that, that comfort zone?
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Are we looking beyond that the, our immediate kind of.
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Space to really see what's going on, whether it's with politics that are happening now, whether, again, it's young people in our community, maybe it's your neighbor, I don't know, but.
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My point is are we able to see what's really going on and take that in?
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And I, again, I feel like we are in a society right now that there's a level of strength that's needed and we are becoming aware of truths that are in society, but oftentimes we are retracting back.
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Our comfort zone to say, oh, that doesn't impact me, or, I'm not responsible for that.
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Or I'm gonna, okay, thank you for making me aware, but I'm gonna go along with my daily life because I'm privileged.
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Or, that's my, that this is my life and that doesn't impact me.
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When in fact it a hundred percent, that's what we're seeing right now, that it impacts us.
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We are.
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Absolutely connected.
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No matter if you're talking about government, if you're talking about corporations, if you're talking about within your community, yeah, and so again, it's really about if we are able to see more clearly the truth, then we are able to take action.
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As leaders, we're able to make better decisions, we're able to create better products, we're able to innovate better because we're keeping in mind the collective community versus just our comfort zone or within our little bubble, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah.
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What about you, a lot of your work also revolves around breaking cycles, right?
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Are you talking about like intergenerational cycles or what exactly does that mean?
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I.
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Whew.
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That's a big question too.
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I think just, I'm a Gen Xer and so I think just in general, our generation is really big on breaking cycles, whether that's along our family, history, family matters because we're I believe that we're really an in between generation, right?
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We are.
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Respecting our elders and seeing what they went through.
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And obviously very different upbringing than also keeping our eyes open and being able to see what Gen Z are requiring, what the world they're in right now, what they're requesting, things like that.
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And cycles can mean that way.
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Cycles can also mean disrupting systems that it's not about being.
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A bad guy or to the left, it's about creating a more equitable society, right?
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How can we make things better so that we can all be in our harmony?
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Just not just a select few.
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Yeah.
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I'm really not sure what else to go to.
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Go.
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We've covered a lot of ground already.
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I think.
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I, I if you were Yes, you did.
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Yeah.
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Can I ask you, this is a lot of information and I'd like to know like how you're receiving this.
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'cause this would help me, I think this would help your viewers too, a lot of this work about awareness is within self leadership.
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I think we're in a state right now where a lot of us, me, you, whoever, is really having to look at our own selves, right?
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And what do you know, the good and the bad, and how do we move on past that?
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I'm just curious how it, this resonates with you.
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Is it so like far away and or what do you think about it?
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No I thank you for asking.
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I feel like I, to me this is actually quite I find it to be actually quite obvious.
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Some of these things.
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I think anybody, when we get, I'm also a Gen Xer, when we get to our level and we've had the success we've had, right?
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We start to think about legacy and the next generation and how to empower them and lead'em in.
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And I think we.
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We become more aware of them.
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And I don't know personally like I just joined a new company because I wanted to be around younger people to a, I could learn more from them, but also, help them with my experience.
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I don't think I, I also think I, I guess what I'm where I was going through with this is that I'd like to know from your perspective that the identification of the issues is, I think out there a lot.
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I think we all talk about this all the time, right?
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There's, right now, our, we had a past election a recent election where you can think whatever you want, these topics were front and center.
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Yes.
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And we were all on one side of it or the other, and we can agree or disagree, it doesn't matter.
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They are front and center topics that I think a lot of people are aware of.
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What I look for is more actionable steps that we can all take.
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Yeah.
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To move forward with it.
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And that's where I was going and Okay.
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I just dunno how to ask those questions.
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How?
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Yeah.
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And I'm a person of action if anybody knows me.
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That's, I've demonstrated action.
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I believe in action.
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'cause to your point, Louis, like if we keep on talking about this, we're just running around in circles, right?
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And that's maybe what needs to be ignited more in society is.
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There needs to be more action for more community members because the truth is, for the last hundred, 200, 300 years, there's been a select few that has been doing most of the kind of social impact, social justice, whatever you wanna call it, work When the truth is, we are all responsible for what's happening now, and we need more people support.
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And honestly, we as a male, we need you more than ever because the truth is, at the end of the day, I can do this work until.
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So I'm 85 till I'm boo in the face and you could literally go up to another male and make a change in 20 seconds that I could never do.
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And so I really believe in men right now.
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I believe that.
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And I believe that a lot of men are really not happy with what's happening with society and.
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It really takes a man talking to another man to say listen, this is not right.
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We need to change this, whatever it may be.
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Or we need to be more equitable.
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We need to put it, change the policy.
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We need more young people.
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Being part of these meetings and being decision makers on executive decisions.
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I don't know what it is, everyone's in a different scenario, really figuring out as a male, what do you really think about what's going on right now and what do you personally, what are you personally passionate about that you wanna see change?
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And yes, should there be more funding?
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And I'm just giving examples here.
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Should there be more funding to women owned businesses?
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Should there be.
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More women on the, in the boardroom making decisions and executive decisions Should the boys club be, looked reviewed and dismantled a little bit, right?
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I don't, I can't answer that for you.
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I only, you can come up with what, what is that issue that is bothering you that you don't like right now?
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And then go from there.
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Because the truth is, Louis, you hold the power, you have the tools and ex and experience to know what.
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With you and what doesn't and what change needs to happen.
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But the truth is, everybody needs to step up to the plate right now.
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Because to your point, again, this is not, we're not in a culture right now about Republican against Democrat.
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It's not about that.
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It's really about it's about being moral.
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It's about humanity right now for sure.
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Because everyone is gonna suffer, or if not already in some way.
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Sure.
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Except for select few.
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Everybody defines suffering their own way, right?
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We can't judge it.
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Suffering is totally, I think a lot of people, I to stand up for my gender I think a lot of them feel, a lot of men feel, a loss of control and power in our society.
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And I think there's an overall, a bigger there's a lot of mental health issues that a lot of men need to, yes.
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Deal with right now to move forward and become empowered.
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We have a huge fentanyl and method meth Yes.
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Problem with young men in this country.
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Because of that, they feel like there's a loss of hope in amongst socioeconomic classes that these kind of problems didn't exist before.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, I think there's big issues there.
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I'm also come from a background where I wasn't invited into the boys clubs that you mentioned, so very early on.
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Yeah.
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It'd be discouraging.
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And I, it sucked.
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But then I just realized, all right, screw that club.
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I'll make my own.
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It'll be bigger and better.
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So I just think amazing.
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That's that's a.
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I'm a father of two girls and I encourage them to be the same way.
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When they get down, down on themselves because of something that they're not a part of, it's like, all right, then make your own club and make it bigger.
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Make it be the club that everybody wants to be a part of, and then you get to pick.
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Yeah.
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Who can be a part of it or not.
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But there's no victimhood with us no, it's not about victim hood.
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But it's about moving forward.
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Totally.
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And I think, and I also, I thank you.
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'cause you might have language that I don't necessarily have right.
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As a female to have conversations with decision makers and that are male, as an example.
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I don't know.
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And so the more that we're communicating, having these conversations again.
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Going outside the box.
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And really being open to different kind of people's ideas, but then coming together with those ideas and then deciding what that action will be, that's power.
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Because there is, and this culture, I truly believe what's happening right now is about people.
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People have power.
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We just need to know that we have a power, we need more confident in our power.
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Yeah.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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I think we all do and we need to recognize it and feel, learn, yeah.
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How to become self-empowered.
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Yes.
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And yeah, a lot of it I think also involves just having self-awareness and I was I think I.
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My, my wife and she's been on the show before and comes on as I guess sometimes she does a, she's very, I, we joke that she's very woo.
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She, so she gets involved with when we talk about breaking cycles, she gets involved with spiritual ancestors, and the cycles there that we have carried down through thousands of years, generations down to where we are now and how that impacts us.
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And it.
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I start I kid with her about it being so woo and out there, over time I've just learned to accept it and respect her because she's right oftentimes and I think, always listen to women.
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Yeah.
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What's that?
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I said always listen to women.
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I'm just kidding.
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No doubt.
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That's all I have in my life yeah.
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Aw, I don't really have anything to listen to.
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Yeah.
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Anybody else to listen to.
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But yeah, no, I think it is, I think when I'm thinking of the terms that you are so involved with, like awaken awareness and breaking cycles and such, this is where where it goes to for me now.
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'cause that's my world with my wife and such and that in our conversations.
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Yeah.
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And that's the beauty and the complexity of humanity is that.
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What might me, awakening awareness for me might be different than you.
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And that's okay.
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That's okay.
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And that's how we come to collective learnings and grow, right?
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And then make decisions from that.
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So that's why we're having this conversation.
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Yeah, totally.
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So I think we're getting around that point where we're going to.
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Go into our world famous Wayfinder four.
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Maya, are you ready?
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Yes.
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You're scared, you hesitate.
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No, I don't know what I don't know what to expect.
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It's really scary.
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Okay.
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Give us a hack, like a life hack that you use.
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Oh, wow.
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Life hack.
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Oh, okay.
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I just learned this from Meghan Markle new Netflix series is that she put takes towels and she puts lavender oil on them and freezes'em.
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And I did that.
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So if you just came in from like a run or exercising or it's a hot day, you just literally take one these towels and it's like a game changer to just calm down and get refreshed.
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Oh, I like that.
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That's cool.
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Yeah, there's a lot.
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We've had a show with I think his name was Matt Ley from Albuquerque.
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He, all he talks about is cold therapy.
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And how you use it to relax and all that.
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That's a great hack.
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Yeah.
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You have anxiety.
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How easy is that?
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Yeah, very easy.
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If you have your like panic attack or anxiety, boom, take my towel.
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And it just it just checks you into a simple state.
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And do you put it on your head, your neck, or where?
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Whatever you want.
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Just hold it.
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Yeah.
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I put it on my head, but do whatever you want.
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Okay.
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I love it.
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Yeah, that's cool.
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How about a favorite?
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This could be a book a show an activity, whatever you want.
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Favorite book is the Four Agreements.
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Oh yeah.
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Miguel Ruiz.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
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My wife and I actually read, reread that one together recently.
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Yes.
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It's a great reminder.
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Yeah, we, every couple years.
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Yes.
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It very good.
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How about this is right up your alley, a piece of advice for your younger self.
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You matter.
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Ooh, say more.
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You are so incredibly important for this world.
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You are unique, you are special.
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Every kind of dream, every kind of desire or passion that you have, it really does mean something.
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And you need to keep focused on that for your life.
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I love it.
00:28:15.094 --> 00:28:21.294
So finally the last one is, either a limiting belief or a big opportunity?
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Oh, I'm around big opportunities all the time.
00:28:25.923 --> 00:28:36.064
Big opportunities is we hold the power to create great change and there's a lot of really amazing initiatives happening.
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Where not just young people, but adults too are getting innovative and coming together and being around like-minded persons to care for people and create a better world.
00:28:47.243 --> 00:28:48.594
I think that's a huge opportunity.
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There's a rebirth happening right now.
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And so we have to be able to flow and we have to be able to change with these times.
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Or you can choose to also stay status quo and get left behind.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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I think I'm also Gen X, like you and I feel like the older I've gotten, the younger I feel.
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Yes.
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You know what I mean?
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Do Isn't that funny?
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Like I, I'm in better shape than I've ever been in my life.
00:29:14.854 --> 00:29:17.463
I feel more aware I'm a better person, all of that.
00:29:17.463 --> 00:29:23.784
And so I think there is a lot of opportunity for especially our generation to Absolutely absolutely.
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And I see my kids now, they're in their late teen years now and they are just so full of anxiety and all of that stuff for that.
00:29:30.894 --> 00:29:34.013
And I see so much talent and ability and I'm like, how are you?
00:29:34.338 --> 00:29:37.459
But you can't, you gotta let'em go through their own process, but Understood.
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I have a soon be 21-year-old and Yeah.
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I feel for these young people.
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Yeah.
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The overstimulation the pressure to succeed.
00:29:46.023 --> 00:29:48.743
It's just it's ridiculous, honestly.
00:29:48.923 --> 00:29:49.284
Yeah.
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Totally let a kid be a kid.
00:29:53.453 --> 00:30:05.374
So my on that note too, by the way I can't mention, but I'm going through a process right now that is, they're screening me for everything in my background and all this stuff.
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And in going through this process, I'm reliving like a lot of my childhood.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, oh my God, I was a knucklehead.
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Like all that.
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And I got away with it because, we grew up in, we were probably the last generation to be able to be kids.
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And once you're 18, it got wiped out.
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And these kids can't be that from a very young age.
00:30:24.729 --> 00:30:27.189
They cannot screw up because it'll haunt them for life.
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And it's like they never really get to be kids anymore.
00:30:30.489 --> 00:30:32.098
And it's sad, it's, yeah.
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And I look, I look at my own self as my parenting, I'm guilty of it.
00:30:36.298 --> 00:30:40.169
I put pressure on my daughter'cause I knew that she had to be strong for this world.
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I didn't have a choice.
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But I think about to your point, man, we were, we rode bikes and had to be home by dinner and there was no cell phone and.
00:30:48.398 --> 00:30:53.328
You went over your friend's house and you did your homework or whatever it was so much simpler.
00:30:53.429 --> 00:31:01.558
And but at the same time, I think the more that we embrace this new world, it'll cause less anxiety and like all we can do is move forward.
00:31:01.739 --> 00:31:03.808
That's all we can do, yeah, totally.
00:31:04.298 --> 00:31:04.538
Bye.
00:31:04.538 --> 00:31:08.689
If people wanted to get to know you a little more, get know more about you how can they do that?
00:31:09.814 --> 00:31:10.443
Thanks Louis.
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You can definitely check out my website at my MAI more MOOR e.com.
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I love to speak to different kind of communities and groups or company settings about awakening awareness and always love to connect with new people.
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It's an adventure.
00:31:28.148 --> 00:31:28.538
Excellent.
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Thank you.
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Look forward to following you and seeing you create more great change in the world.
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We'll catch you on the next episode.
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You are so incredibly important for this world.
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You are unique.
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You are special.
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Every kind of dream, every kind of desire or passion that you have, it really does mean something, and you need to keep focused on that for your life.
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Welcome to the Wayfinder Show with Louis Hernandez, where guests discussed the why and how of making changes that led them down a more authentic path or allowed them to level up in some areas of their life.
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Our goal is to dig deep and provide not only knowledge, but actionable advice to help you get from where you are to where you want to be.
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Come join us and find a way to your dream life.
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Welcome back to the Wayfinder Show.
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I'm your host, Louis Hernandez and on today's Wayfinder Show, I'm honored to welcome a powerhouse of purpose and impact by the name of My Moore.
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She's a dynamic speaker, social impact strategist, and divisionary behind movements like empowering youth.
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Exploring Justice and Boss Me In, which is transforming the way we think about leadership, equity, and youth empowerment with a rich background that spans corporate success, nonprofit innovation in over 500 global speaking engagements.
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MA is the.
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Kind of leader who not only speaks truth to power, but equips the next generation to do the same.
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Her work has been recognized with multiple Anthem awards and she's here today to share how we can all step into purpose, break cycles, and create lasting change.
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My welcome to the Wayfinder Show.
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Thanks so much Louis, for having me.
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I'm excited to have this conversation.
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Yeah, likewise.
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Let's start with your origin story.
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What what who is my more wow, that's a big question.
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So I act, I call myself hashtag almost social impact.
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My personal mission is really about awakening and awareness.
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So that it can help people see more clearly, so they can lead properly in this new world.
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And I'm really here.
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My vision is really to create a more equitable, connected and empowered world.
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And you shared some of my background, but it started out as in tech really, I was, involved with two startups that went public, and I did.
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I was in tech for Wow, for over 20 years.
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And then to what you had mentioned, I co-founded a Social impact nonprofit, EYEJ, empowering Youth Exploring Justice, empowering young advocates for change.
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So I had served 2000 underserved youth with the help of 1400 diverse adults.
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How create change from just the idea.
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And after that I really wanted to get back into the national, international space.
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I chief.
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Which is a very large women's executive network of 20,000 women across the United States, and really was paying attention to what was happening.
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This was about three years ago, and that's when all the, great resignation topics came up.
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Pay Gap, DEI, burnout all that, and created actually a coalition.
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We started doing speaker series for young women because I feel like we had set them up for failure, meaning.
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Chiefs are amazing and they have so many stories and experiences to share, but they, many of us, and it doesn't matter, male or female, have been taught, to wear a mask.
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You can't be vulnerable, you can't share your story, things like that.
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And until we are honest and share those experiences with young people they will then be able to plan their life a little bit better.
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And so from that, I was really inspired and created a company called Bossan, which you mentioned.
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Which is really about bridging the intergenerational gap for the future work through connection, inclusivity, and transforming leadership.
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And the real differentiator there is intergenerational leadership.
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And so beyond that, yes, to your point, I do public speaking, like I mentioned, I'm very focused on awakening and awareness right now just because of my reflections on the last 13 years.
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And really how can I help humanity or future of work or culture better?
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Wow.
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There's a lot there.
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I like to let's, I wanna focus on you first before we get into some of those subjects if we could.
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Sure.
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How how do I put this?
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With the.
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Story of, transformational leadership and all of that.
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What was, what got you personally to really think about this, right?
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What, yeah.
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Why even do this work?
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I grew up very multicultural.
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My mother's Japanese I'm half Caucasian.
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My daughter is half Zambian.
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And my mother always brought me around different cultures.
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I grew up in a community in Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
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That's very diverse.
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And so when I was growing up, it was really about who you are as a human right versus the color of your skin, your social economic level, what industry, what role you are in.
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And so that's really stuck with me.
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And and then, as I got into the tech industry.
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What a lot of women were facing three years ago with a great resignation and having this desire to find, our purpose or wanting to do something that helps impact society or really listening to the demands of Gen Z.
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That was me when I was in the tech industry and I've always been fast and I'm not saying that's a great thing, but I've always been.
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Visionary and fast.
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And so I had a lot of those experiences being in the tech industry where, for example, you were fighting to get to that one spot as a female or a person of color.
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And then, people would go against each other fighting for that one spot and.
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And just a corporate atmosphere.
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So I had a lot of those experiences, young and obviously I had never thought in a million years I'd be working with young people or start a nonprofit and, the teachings of spending time with these young people and underserved.
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It just boggled my mind'cause I just didn't understand.
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To be in a society where there's 27,000 nonprofits, why are our young people in the state of toxic stress?
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And why is there so many people that are underserved?
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And these kind of different steps had kept growing inside of me.
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And then I had became a chief and like I mentioned, was really paying attention to what was happening in the corporate space.
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And I can't answer everything, but what has.
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What has been inside of me is just seeing these young people, whether through BOSSAN or EYEJ, and how, how young, so many young people are, young leaders at such a young age, and are we really preparing them for the future properly?
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As an example, in five years, 70% of our workforce is gonna be millennials and Gen Z, and have we set them up properly?
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Look at our culture right now.
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Do we have intergenerational leadership embedded into cultures and corporations and workplaces properly?
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And are we being equitable?
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That's always stood with me is the whole justice and equity and humanity standpoint.
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That's always been like this underlying foundation.
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And I care.
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And again, I've been privileged to spend time with so many different kind of people, literally working with billionaires to returning citizens.
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And I just, I feel like leadership is such a important and urgent need for society right now.
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And there are so many people who are.
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Capable of leadership or are leaders who are not empowered properly, and then yet we have leaders in place that are literally ruling.
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Humanity right now.
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And so again, all these things connect.
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And I, like I mentioned, I feel like my calling right now is really about awareness because I have seen how we make decisions or funding decisions or whatever it is, innovation decisions.
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And we think we're making impact, but yet we're actually taking us backwards as humanity.
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And so being more aware, being able to see more clearly will help us make better decisions as leaders.
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Was there did you find that once you left the tech world and started doing it through your nonprofit, that you were empowered to be able to tell a story maybe that you couldn't before because you were bound by the Sure.
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The walls of corporate America?
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Absolutely.
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Being an entrepreneur, there's more freedom there, right?
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And I think there.
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Being to be seen, to be heard, to be valued to be appreciated which we see right now that a lot of people really desire.
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And yeah, that's definitely part of it.
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And I think it was a lot about voice.
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When it's not equitable, the voices, whether we bring people to the table or not, it's still not equitable of how we implement it or who we listen to or how we, how many we communicate things.
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And I think there's a strong desire for many people to get, have their voice heard and be seen.
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Sure.
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Lady, I relate to them honestly.
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Yeah.
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I'm wondering if you can tell us like.
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A personal story you were suddenly able in your speaking engagement or what have you, that you were, you might have been afraid to before in corporate America, that now you were able to, as you became an entrepreneur and and with that sharing of that story, what was your own feeling there and the reaction of others to it?
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Yeah, that's a big question and I think I actually attribute this a lot to entrepreneurship is that and just, going through what I have with these companies and how people are I have many stories I think, be, for example, to your point about speaking.
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When I've done many speaking engagements and, speaking to an audience, that's not exactly the same as me.
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But then, seeing their eyes light up like a light bulb just went off, or, speaking to an audience and having a seventh grade boy run after me and say thank you.
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What seventh grader does that in general, right?
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And so those moments are really what ignite like a few inside of me.
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And like I said, I'm very tied to injustice.
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So EYJ was actually created.
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When the Trayvon Martin ruling had happened and I just, it didn't sit well with me.
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That was really the fire that lit the spark for EYEJ.
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But it's those moments or working with executive women chiefs or Gen Z in the future workspace, just seeing people's passion come alive or the seeing people take action based in a thriving, healthy, happy way.
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That's what really makes me happy and keeps me going.
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Yeah.
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So it, it sounds like you've probably recognized some.
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There, there's systemic barriers here for some of our youth and out that are out there, right?
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And I think you've identified some of those, but and I like what you're doing to try and encourage, empower people to, to create change.
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How is.
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I guess what, are there any actionable steps that you get people to do to do that?
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To start feeling empowered to also create the change?
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Yeah so just to be clear, the systemic barriers are not just.
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It's a certain group of youth, it's pro, it's a majority of young people that are faced with depression.
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And you think about examples of, when a young person has a brilliant idea, they bring it to the table and then we shut them down, or we don't listen to them.
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So to your, to answer your question, that's my job.
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My job is really to get more people involved.
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And as an example, EYJ or boss and, corralling and.
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Really reaching out to diverse community to come to the table to, because I think a majority of society does care about young people.
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And for them to see firsthand or hear their story of what they've been through.
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A lot of people don't realize it.
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I think we have a systemic problem in the United States where a lot of people are very sheltered and comfortable.
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And don't want to.
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Deal with harder scenarios in some situations and don't have to because they're not held accountable and until, and, but at the end of the day, we are humans.
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And when people hear people's stories and see young people step up to the plate, that's inspiring.
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And that educates and reminds us as older leaders like, oh yes.
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I forgot.
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This is our duty to empower the next set generation of leaders.
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And I think sometimes we forget that as older leaders and we have been there ourselves, right?
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And so I know for me personally, like I don't want young people to ever go through the things that I went through.
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And so that's my way of I don't know whether you call it protection or guiding or.
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Again, building awareness.
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But and having conversation and building relationship with community, and again, it's about messaging and showing and demonstrating by leadership.
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These young actions that young, if you look at the Gen Z space right now, so inspirational.
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If you see the amount of Gen Zs that are building businesses and impact oriented, purpose-driven companies and who have desires and passions for helping back community, that's inspiring.
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But people need to see that to some, kids keep us in check.
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Kids are our foundation.
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So sometimes we have to be reminded and the more that can be shared with the world it reminds us.
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Again, back to the basics of humanity, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah, it does.
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So what, alright, as an, as a geezer, what adv advice, like what are the are my blind spots in general and how can I work on them?
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Yeah.
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Louis, I'd have to get to know you more.
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You're a human.
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In general, right?
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Yeah.
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But I think that's a big question, right?
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I think, again, the reminder that our duty is to set up our next generation of leaders.
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Have we done that?
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Have we guided them?
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Have we prepared them?
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Have we given them resources?
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And are we reaching out to our community?
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'cause our community is beyond just our current, what we know of, right?
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When you are.
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Do doing an action.
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It is in fact it is impacting everybody and we are all connected.
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So are you going beyond your comfort zone to reach out to and just an example of speakers or people maybe you mentor or.
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Helping people with resources to help guide them and prepare them for this new world because we do have, again, experience and knowledge and resources.
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But are we communicating and finding out from our community what they need?
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Are we asking them and then providing that back?
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Okay.
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You talk a little bit about.
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You've mentioned the term awake and awareness.
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What exactly does that mean?
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It means that it, what it means is.
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When I say, are we seeing, are, when I ask back, are you, are we seeing clearly immediate responses?
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Probably I can see, I've been, I'm X I'm Generation X.
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I can see just fine.
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But what I mean by that is, are we looking beyond, again, that, that comfort zone?
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Are we looking beyond that the, our immediate kind of.
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Space to really see what's going on, whether it's with politics that are happening now, whether, again, it's young people in our community, maybe it's your neighbor, I don't know, but.
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My point is are we able to see what's really going on and take that in?
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And I, again, I feel like we are in a society right now that there's a level of strength that's needed and we are becoming aware of truths that are in society, but oftentimes we are retracting back.
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Our comfort zone to say, oh, that doesn't impact me, or, I'm not responsible for that.
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Or I'm gonna, okay, thank you for making me aware, but I'm gonna go along with my daily life because I'm privileged.
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Or, that's my, that this is my life and that doesn't impact me.
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When in fact it a hundred percent, that's what we're seeing right now, that it impacts us.
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We are.
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Absolutely connected.
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No matter if you're talking about government, if you're talking about corporations, if you're talking about within your community, yeah, and so again, it's really about if we are able to see more clearly the truth, then we are able to take action.
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As leaders, we're able to make better decisions, we're able to create better products, we're able to innovate better because we're keeping in mind the collective community versus just our comfort zone or within our little bubble, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah.
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What about you, a lot of your work also revolves around breaking cycles, right?
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Are you talking about like intergenerational cycles or what exactly does that mean?
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I.
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Whew.
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That's a big question too.
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I think just, I'm a Gen Xer and so I think just in general, our generation is really big on breaking cycles, whether that's along our family, history, family matters because we're I believe that we're really an in between generation, right?
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We are.
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Respecting our elders and seeing what they went through.
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And obviously very different upbringing than also keeping our eyes open and being able to see what Gen Z are requiring, what the world they're in right now, what they're requesting, things like that.
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And cycles can mean that way.
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Cycles can also mean disrupting systems that it's not about being.
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A bad guy or to the left, it's about creating a more equitable society, right?
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How can we make things better so that we can all be in our harmony?
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Just not just a select few.
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Yeah.
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I'm really not sure what else to go to.
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Go.
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We've covered a lot of ground already.
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I think.
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I, I if you were Yes, you did.
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Yeah.
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Can I ask you, this is a lot of information and I'd like to know like how you're receiving this.
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'cause this would help me, I think this would help your viewers too, a lot of this work about awareness is within self leadership.
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I think we're in a state right now where a lot of us, me, you, whoever, is really having to look at our own selves, right?
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And what do you know, the good and the bad, and how do we move on past that?
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I'm just curious how it, this resonates with you.
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Is it so like far away and or what do you think about it?
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No I thank you for asking.
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I feel like I, to me this is actually quite I find it to be actually quite obvious.
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Some of these things.
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I think anybody, when we get, I'm also a Gen Xer, when we get to our level and we've had the success we've had, right?
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We start to think about legacy and the next generation and how to empower them and lead'em in.
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And I think we.
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We become more aware of them.
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And I don't know personally like I just joined a new company because I wanted to be around younger people to a, I could learn more from them, but also, help them with my experience.
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I don't think I, I also think I, I guess what I'm where I was going through with this is that I'd like to know from your perspective that the identification of the issues is, I think out there a lot.
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I think we all talk about this all the time, right?
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There's, right now, our, we had a past election a recent election where you can think whatever you want, these topics were front and center.
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Yes.
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And we were all on one side of it or the other, and we can agree or disagree, it doesn't matter.
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They are front and center topics that I think a lot of people are aware of.
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What I look for is more actionable steps that we can all take.
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Yeah.
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To move forward with it.
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And that's where I was going and Okay.
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I just dunno how to ask those questions.
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How?
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Yeah.
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And I'm a person of action if anybody knows me.
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That's, I've demonstrated action.
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I believe in action.
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'cause to your point, Louis, like if we keep on talking about this, we're just running around in circles, right?
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And that's maybe what needs to be ignited more in society is.
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There needs to be more action for more community members because the truth is, for the last hundred, 200, 300 years, there's been a select few that has been doing most of the kind of social impact, social justice, whatever you wanna call it, work When the truth is, we are all responsible for what's happening now, and we need more people support.
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And honestly, we as a male, we need you more than ever because the truth is, at the end of the day, I can do this work until.
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So I'm 85 till I'm boo in the face and you could literally go up to another male and make a change in 20 seconds that I could never do.
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And so I really believe in men right now.
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I believe that.
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And I believe that a lot of men are really not happy with what's happening with society and.
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It really takes a man talking to another man to say listen, this is not right.
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We need to change this, whatever it may be.
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Or we need to be more equitable.
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We need to put it, change the policy.
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We need more young people.
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Being part of these meetings and being decision makers on executive decisions.
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I don't know what it is, everyone's in a different scenario, really figuring out as a male, what do you really think about what's going on right now and what do you personally, what are you personally passionate about that you wanna see change?
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And yes, should there be more funding?
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And I'm just giving examples here.
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Should there be more funding to women owned businesses?
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Should there be.
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More women on the, in the boardroom making decisions and executive decisions Should the boys club be, looked reviewed and dismantled a little bit, right?
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I don't, I can't answer that for you.
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I only, you can come up with what, what is that issue that is bothering you that you don't like right now?
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And then go from there.
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Because the truth is, Louis, you hold the power, you have the tools and ex and experience to know what.
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With you and what doesn't and what change needs to happen.
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But the truth is, everybody needs to step up to the plate right now.
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Because to your point, again, this is not, we're not in a culture right now about Republican against Democrat.
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It's not about that.
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It's really about it's about being moral.
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It's about humanity right now for sure.
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Because everyone is gonna suffer, or if not already in some way.
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Sure.
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Except for select few.
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Everybody defines suffering their own way, right?
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We can't judge it.
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Suffering is totally, I think a lot of people, I to stand up for my gender I think a lot of them feel, a lot of men feel, a loss of control and power in our society.
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And I think there's an overall, a bigger there's a lot of mental health issues that a lot of men need to, yes.
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Deal with right now to move forward and become empowered.
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We have a huge fentanyl and method meth Yes.
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Problem with young men in this country.
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Because of that, they feel like there's a loss of hope in amongst socioeconomic classes that these kind of problems didn't exist before.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, I think there's big issues there.
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I'm also come from a background where I wasn't invited into the boys clubs that you mentioned, so very early on.
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Yeah.
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It'd be discouraging.
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And I, it sucked.
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But then I just realized, all right, screw that club.
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I'll make my own.
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It'll be bigger and better.
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So I just think amazing.
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That's that's a.
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I'm a father of two girls and I encourage them to be the same way.
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When they get down, down on themselves because of something that they're not a part of, it's like, all right, then make your own club and make it bigger.
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Make it be the club that everybody wants to be a part of, and then you get to pick.
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Yeah.
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Who can be a part of it or not.
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But there's no victimhood with us no, it's not about victim hood.
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But it's about moving forward.
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Totally.
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And I think, and I also, I thank you.
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'cause you might have language that I don't necessarily have right.
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As a female to have conversations with decision makers and that are male, as an example.
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I don't know.
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And so the more that we're communicating, having these conversations again.
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Going outside the box.
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And really being open to different kind of people's ideas, but then coming together with those ideas and then deciding what that action will be, that's power.
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Because there is, and this culture, I truly believe what's happening right now is about people.
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People have power.
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We just need to know that we have a power, we need more confident in our power.
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Yeah.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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I think we all do and we need to recognize it and feel, learn, yeah.
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How to become self-empowered.
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Yes.
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And yeah, a lot of it I think also involves just having self-awareness and I was I think I.
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My, my wife and she's been on the show before and comes on as I guess sometimes she does a, she's very, I, we joke that she's very woo.
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She, so she gets involved with when we talk about breaking cycles, she gets involved with spiritual ancestors, and the cycles there that we have carried down through thousands of years, generations down to where we are now and how that impacts us.
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And it.
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I start I kid with her about it being so woo and out there, over time I've just learned to accept it and respect her because she's right oftentimes and I think, always listen to women.
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Yeah.
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What's that?
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I said always listen to women.
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I'm just kidding.
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No doubt.
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That's all I have in my life yeah.
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Aw, I don't really have anything to listen to.
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Yeah.
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Anybody else to listen to.
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But yeah, no, I think it is, I think when I'm thinking of the terms that you are so involved with, like awaken awareness and breaking cycles and such, this is where where it goes to for me now.
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'cause that's my world with my wife and such and that in our conversations.
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Yeah.
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And that's the beauty and the complexity of humanity is that.
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What might me, awakening awareness for me might be different than you.
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And that's okay.
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That's okay.
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And that's how we come to collective learnings and grow, right?
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And then make decisions from that.
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So that's why we're having this conversation.
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Yeah, totally.
00:25:59.923 --> 00:26:03.973
So I think we're getting around that point where we're going to.
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Go into our world famous Wayfinder four.
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Maya, are you ready?
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Yes.
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You're scared, you hesitate.
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No, I don't know what I don't know what to expect.
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It's really scary.
00:26:16.828 --> 00:26:17.189
Okay.
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Give us a hack, like a life hack that you use.
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Oh, wow.
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Life hack.
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Oh, okay.
00:26:26.473 --> 00:26:35.614
I just learned this from Meghan Markle new Netflix series is that she put takes towels and she puts lavender oil on them and freezes'em.
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And I did that.
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So if you just came in from like a run or exercising or it's a hot day, you just literally take one these towels and it's like a game changer to just calm down and get refreshed.
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Oh, I like that.
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That's cool.
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Yeah, there's a lot.
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We've had a show with I think his name was Matt Ley from Albuquerque.
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He, all he talks about is cold therapy.
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And how you use it to relax and all that.
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That's a great hack.
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Yeah.
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You have anxiety.
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How easy is that?
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Yeah, very easy.
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If you have your like panic attack or anxiety, boom, take my towel.
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And it just it just checks you into a simple state.
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And do you put it on your head, your neck, or where?
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Whatever you want.
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Just hold it.
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Yeah.
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I put it on my head, but do whatever you want.
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Okay.
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I love it.
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Yeah, that's cool.
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How about a favorite?
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This could be a book a show an activity, whatever you want.
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Favorite book is the Four Agreements.
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Oh yeah.
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Miguel Ruiz.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
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My wife and I actually read, reread that one together recently.
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Yes.
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It's a great reminder.
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Yeah, we, every couple years.
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Yes.
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It very good.
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How about this is right up your alley, a piece of advice for your younger self.
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You matter.
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Ooh, say more.
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You are so incredibly important for this world.
00:27:58.814 --> 00:28:00.973
You are unique, you are special.
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Every kind of dream, every kind of desire or passion that you have, it really does mean something.
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And you need to keep focused on that for your life.
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I love it.
00:28:15.094 --> 00:28:21.294
So finally the last one is, either a limiting belief or a big opportunity?
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Oh, I'm around big opportunities all the time.
00:28:25.923 --> 00:28:36.064
Big opportunities is we hold the power to create great change and there's a lot of really amazing initiatives happening.
00:28:36.403 --> 00:28:47.243
Where not just young people, but adults too are getting innovative and coming together and being around like-minded persons to care for people and create a better world.
00:28:47.243 --> 00:28:48.594
I think that's a huge opportunity.
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There's a rebirth happening right now.
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And so we have to be able to flow and we have to be able to change with these times.
00:28:56.973 --> 00:29:00.634
Or you can choose to also stay status quo and get left behind.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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I think I'm also Gen X, like you and I feel like the older I've gotten, the younger I feel.
00:29:09.903 --> 00:29:10.023
Yes.
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You know what I mean?
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Do Isn't that funny?
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Like I, I'm in better shape than I've ever been in my life.
00:29:14.854 --> 00:29:17.463
I feel more aware I'm a better person, all of that.
00:29:17.463 --> 00:29:23.784
And so I think there is a lot of opportunity for especially our generation to Absolutely absolutely.
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And I see my kids now, they're in their late teen years now and they are just so full of anxiety and all of that stuff for that.
00:29:30.894 --> 00:29:34.013
And I see so much talent and ability and I'm like, how are you?
00:29:34.338 --> 00:29:37.459
But you can't, you gotta let'em go through their own process, but Understood.
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I have a soon be 21-year-old and Yeah.
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I feel for these young people.
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Yeah.
00:29:42.673 --> 00:29:45.943
The overstimulation the pressure to succeed.
00:29:46.023 --> 00:29:48.743
It's just it's ridiculous, honestly.
00:29:48.923 --> 00:29:49.284
Yeah.
00:29:49.794 --> 00:29:51.653
Totally let a kid be a kid.
00:29:53.453 --> 00:30:05.374
So my on that note too, by the way I can't mention, but I'm going through a process right now that is, they're screening me for everything in my background and all this stuff.
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And in going through this process, I'm reliving like a lot of my childhood.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, oh my God, I was a knucklehead.
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Like all that.
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And I got away with it because, we grew up in, we were probably the last generation to be able to be kids.
00:30:20.338 --> 00:30:22.019
And once you're 18, it got wiped out.
00:30:22.028 --> 00:30:24.729
And these kids can't be that from a very young age.
00:30:24.729 --> 00:30:27.189
They cannot screw up because it'll haunt them for life.
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And it's like they never really get to be kids anymore.
00:30:30.489 --> 00:30:32.098
And it's sad, it's, yeah.
00:30:32.159 --> 00:30:36.298
And I look, I look at my own self as my parenting, I'm guilty of it.
00:30:36.298 --> 00:30:40.169
I put pressure on my daughter'cause I knew that she had to be strong for this world.
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I didn't have a choice.
00:30:41.048 --> 00:30:48.068
But I think about to your point, man, we were, we rode bikes and had to be home by dinner and there was no cell phone and.
00:30:48.398 --> 00:30:53.328
You went over your friend's house and you did your homework or whatever it was so much simpler.
00:30:53.429 --> 00:31:01.558
And but at the same time, I think the more that we embrace this new world, it'll cause less anxiety and like all we can do is move forward.
00:31:01.739 --> 00:31:03.808
That's all we can do, yeah, totally.
00:31:04.298 --> 00:31:04.538
Bye.
00:31:04.538 --> 00:31:08.689
If people wanted to get to know you a little more, get know more about you how can they do that?
00:31:09.814 --> 00:31:10.443
Thanks Louis.
00:31:10.443 --> 00:31:15.933
You can definitely check out my website at my MAI more MOOR e.com.
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I love to speak to different kind of communities and groups or company settings about awakening awareness and always love to connect with new people.
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It's an adventure.
00:31:28.148 --> 00:31:28.538
Excellent.
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Thank you.
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Look forward to following you and seeing you create more great change in the world.
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